"After, China Palace on 6th street… And then we started Ming's Restaurant, at 7th street. And then we started, because I went to a class with a friend, to a real estate class in Portland. And we saw that Trader Lee, oh, it was so nice, you know? With fire, and everything. So we said, Oh, we have to open Trader Lee. So we opened a Trader Lee in Eugene, and we opened a Trader Lee in Springfield…On Main Street. But I think now-- what they call it? … Great Wall. Which used to be Trader Lee… And we tried to put some fire on in the front, you know, like Portland does. But it didn't work very well. And the fire department think that we should not do that anymore. So we took it down. But so...we have buffet. And we have a sign there. And we said, All you can eat. Do not waste. And if you leave food on the plate, your dinner is doubled. Like, you know, some pile up in the plate and then take it home. See, you can't do that. So, but it was really lots of fun. And comparing Springfield to Eugene, it's not much different. I mean, years back, of course, they are a lumber town, so they come in and they eat more than today..."